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At 6:47 on March 27, 2009, michael Bocchicchio said…
Hi Alexander,
I just read your page on historical rosettes. Well done!
I am curious if you have noticed a distinctive difference in sound and volume between the three types of roses?
I have come to my own concussions with lute rose designs, but as you pointed out, the entire soundboard, rose, and barring relationship on a guitar or vehuela are completely different.
Best,
Mike
At 16:22 on March 26, 2009, michael Bocchicchio said…
Is the second guitar are you web page (66cm) an example of an unveneered Bubinga neck? If it is, It looks nice with the dark Cocabolo body. Is it stable over time as an unveneered neck wood?
The Bubinga that I have access to is very red/orange and would have to be veneered if using a maple body, but I like this idea. I agree that solid heavy woods are better for sustain.
Best,
Mike
At 16:14 on January 26, 2009, Mark Day said…
Mr. Batov,

Thank you! That is interesting that corner blocks were not used. I guess I'm looking for the dimensions of the body. I was planning on building it to be tuned as a 6-course lute in "g". Somewhere I saw a scale length of 56cm, but I'm not sure if that is correct. As long as I get the scale length correct, and am fairly close to the correct the body dimensions I'll be happy. It's for my own personal use. I'll probably draw up my own plans as well. Did you use a mold or free-air build?
I might also build a steel-string guitar of the same basic shape in the future. I'm curious about the sound of the viola de mano comapared to vihuelas of the more "guitarish" shape. Thanks again Alexander!

Mark
At 14:15 on January 23, 2009, Mark Day said…
Mr. Batov,
I'm interested in building a Viola da mano something like the one on your site ("dai Libri" model Viola da mano in G (SL 56cm)). I'm a novice luthier currently working on a lute from David Van Edwards "Build your own Renaissance lute" course. I'm a lefty with an interest in building my own instruments. I was wondering if you drew your own plans for this instrument or if they are available somewhere. If you drew your own, what dimensions did you use? Thank you,

Mark
At 11:14 on January 21, 2009, jean michel Catherinot said…
I'm really impressed by your infos and the photos on your site, and the sound of your instruments as played by Rob (but it's Rob!). In fact I'm interested in eventually having a vihuela from you , but can't find your mailbox... All the best
At 14:51 on October 3, 2008, Jean-Marie Poirier said…
All the colour pictures of ballet musicians come from the same source : the costumes for the Ballet de la Douairière de Billebahaut (1626). I join another picture showing servants following the guitarists from Granada, carrying their guitar cases on horseback ! (same date, of course)
Jean-Marie

At 9:06 on October 3, 2008, Jean-Marie Poirier said…
Thank you Alexander for your kind words. At the time (years ago...) I recorded the Fuenllana I didn't have a vihuela yet, so I used my baroque guitar strung like a 5 course vihuela according to Fuellana's instructions ;-)...
The drawings by Rabel come from a collection of costume studies for Le Ballet de la Douairière de Billebahaut dansé par Sa Majesté en février 1626 and they are kept at Musée du Louvre, Département des Arts Graphiques.
I will post more iconographical documents soon !

Jean-Marie
At 0:34 on September 20, 2008, Yar Kislov said…
Oh, sure, I am very interested in your proposal! In fact that's what I am looking for! I would not mind at all the undecorated instrument. I wouldn't mind the absence of the decoration, even the rosette (no rosette is fine for me now), no bindings etc. All that matters for me now is that the feel is there and that it is set up well! And if you say that it will even sound as well as a good instrument, then it's great! Please let me know when you could have the possibility to make one baroque guiar like that! Thanks in advance!

Приятно все-таки по-русски пообщаться!
С мастером тем такая вышла история. Я к нему в Питер приехал и мы договорились, что он мне сделает инструмент без декораций, без розетки, с прямой задней декой (не выгнутой)... Договорились мы на 500 евро, но денег у меня тогда с собой не было и я сказал, что как только они у меня появятся, я ему позвоню.... Затем прошло полгода, у меня появились деньги и я поехал по делам в Питер. Там пришел к нему... А он говорит, что мол теперь нашел новую хорошо оплачиваемую работу и нет времени делать мне инструмент... Если бы он и взялся, то за дорогой инструмент с декорациями и т.д.

Ну, я его не виню, надо было мне самому ему звонить заранее и говорить, что все в силе и я коплю деньги....

А может оно и к лучшему.... Однако это было для меня самое подходящее по деньгам предложение....

О! Кстати на семинаре в Криглахе мне Лислеванд дал упражнятся гитару, на которой был записан его альбом Santiago de Murcia codex 4! Отличный инструмент, могу прислать фото... Правда сейчас у него основная гитара другая... А на этой играет его согрупник Thor-Harald Johnsen...
At 15:55 on September 19, 2008, Yar Kislov said…
Thanks! No, I don't have the baroque guitar right now. I played it at Krieglach. And now I am looking for one! The problem is that all baroque guitars cost more than 2000 euros... :(( Here in Russia it's quite a lot of money, and I cannot yet afford that price! So, I am looking for used baroque guitar or maybe a student model which is not so expensive.... Before I find one I am planning to convert my 12-string guitar into a baroque one... I will change nut and saddle in a way so it would be sort of like on the baroque guitar (4 chords + 1 string)... And I will use metal strings, so it will be my first guitar battente :)) Yes, I know, sound wise it would be completely different instrument, but my goal is to at least practise the technique on it before I get a real instrument....

В Москве сейчас стало прохладно... +8... Эх, упустил я шанс купить барочную гитару у Михаила Федченко... А теперь он их больше не делает, говорит, что нашел себе другую хорошо оплачиваемую работу....
At 22:44 on September 15, 2008, Andrew Hartig said…
I really enjoyed your page on historic rosettes. I added a link from my cittern site quite some time ago!
At 16:49 on September 15, 2008, Rob MacKillop said…
Great photo! Good to see you here.

Rob

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