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renaissance guitar - mensur?
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Hi, I´m on the way to order a r-guitar, mensur around 52cm? (my tenor-uke has 43cm). what are your experiences playing such instruments? greetings wolfgang

Started this discussion. Last reply by James Tyler Nov 24.

 

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James Tyler replied to wolfgang wiehe's discussion 'renaissance guitar - mensur?'
Hi Wolfgang, I still play Peter Forrester's 54 cm renaissance guitar, as he mentions in the previous reply (it is a wonderful instrument). As I also have large hands, this works very well for me, and as a player of the renaissance lute (59 cm) and…
November 24
Peter Forrester replied to wolfgang wiehe's discussion 'renaissance guitar - mensur?'
Hello Valéry, That would have been one of the first I made and sold. Donald Gill had made one for himself which I saw and liked, but thought that the Morlaye picture looked as though the back might be rounded and that this would perhaps project bett…
November 24
Valéry Sauvage replied to wolfgang wiehe's discussion 'renaissance guitar - mensur?'
Hello Peter, the first renaissance guitar I played was one you made for Betho Davezac, what an experience to play Morlaye on the original instrument (I was just a lute begginer at that time: early 80') Valéry
November 23
wolfgang wiehe replied to wolfgang wiehe's discussion 'renaissance guitar - mensur?'
thanks all for your advices. So I have to choose. my hands are very large, the span between thumb and index-tip is 22cm, between index and little finger 18cm. but I feel very comfortable with my tenor-uke and its 43cm.... most of the r-guitar I saw…
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Peter Forrester replied to wolfgang wiehe's discussion 'renaissance guitar - mensur?'
When I started making 4 course guitars (around 1970) I used a top string at g" and a string length of 54 cm. This was then regarded as an appropriate, breakage-wise, combination for gut at A - 440. Later I learnt that an a" was more appropriate and…
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Andrew Hartig replied to wolfgang wiehe's discussion 'renaissance guitar - mensur?'
Yes, but tuning with what string material and at what pitch standard? Gut suggests a much smaller mensur. Also, because the ren guitar does not have really low bass notes, one can get away with tuning the top course at a lower pitch than would be r…
November 13
Martin McDowell replied to wolfgang wiehe's discussion 'renaissance guitar - mensur?'
52cm seems slightly on the short side... I suppose it depends on what gauge strings you use, and at what tension, but mine is 56cm with 1st course tuned to A - 52cm might suggest a higher pitch.
November 13

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About Me:
I´m playing renaissance lute since 8 years and started this summer with the tenor-uke (Lanikai) as a surrogate for a renaissance guitar, which works very well!
Website:
http://lutegroup.ning.com/profiles/profile/show?id=wolfgangwiehe&
my renaissance-uke-scores so far:

LE ROY: TIERS LIVRE DE TABVLATURE DE GVITERRE, 1552
http://musickshandmade.com/lute/collections/view/105

PIERRE PHALESE: SELECTISSIMA...GUITERNA CARMINA, Antwerp 1570
Facsimile of Rostock Musica XVI-58, with an introduction by Michael Fink. Tree-Edition.
(a wonderful collection with a lot of Arcadelt intabulations!!!)

SIMON GROLIER & G.MORLAYE: 4 renaissance guitar books, 1551-1553. facsimile. Editions Chanterelle.

ADRIAN LE ROY & ROBERT BALLARD: Five Guitar Books, 1551-1555. facsimile. Editions Chanterelle.

Le Secret des Muses: Volume 18 : 108 pièces pour guitare renaissance, (France, Italy, Spain, England and Ireland). Arrangements by Pascale Boquet.

and some baroque arranged for four strings:
Rob McKillop: 20 Baroque Pieces by Gaspar Sanz, arranged for ukulele.





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chanson "la seraphine" morlaye 1552

hi,
this weekend I found this weird piece in morlaye´s book. it seems to me a little bit out of time. I didn´t found a record or more information. brown gives no concordance.
- the embellishments are tricky.

Posted on September 13, 2009 at 10:00pm — 1 Comment

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"la paduana del re"

from: british library royal app. (59-62).
I heard this beatiful piece on MAssimo Lonardi´s CD Comienca la musica para guitarra.
... now I am searching for a tabulature. please help
greetings
wolfgang

Posted on September 6, 2009 at 8:30pm — 2 Comments

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At 3:41pm on December 3, 2009, Jelma van Amersfoort said…
I like your new recording - I'm also playing renaissance uke - and I wonder what you'll sound like on your coming "real" RG!
At 5:49am on December 3, 2009, Jamie Philp said…
Hi Wolfgang
Thank you so much for all the information about Renaissance guitar music. Your Renaissance Ukulele playing sounds wonderful!
Very nice of you.
Jamie
At 4:02am on September 10, 2009, Chris Despopoulos said…
Thanks so much!!! There's some great stuff in those tablatures.
At 5:06am on September 9, 2009, Chris Despopoulos said…
I have also tried using a ukulele as an alternative to a renaissance guitar. I just don't can't afford the real thing. I've been using Google to hunt for manuscripts. How did you find these pieces? They're beautiful.
At 5:54am on September 1, 2009, Valéry Sauvage said…
Hello Wolfgang, very nice piece on the uke, really sounds so nice ! (I'm also uke player, and renaissance guitar too...)
Val
 
 

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