Guzman Editions

[Thomas Tallant]

Hello, Can anyone recommend editions or sources of music by Vargas y Guzman? Thank you -- Thomas

[Jelma van Amersfoort]

Hello Thomas, there is an edition by Schott but it is heavily edited - they removed the continuo part. Jelma

[Scot Tremblay]

Here's one thing I know of on line:

http://www.juntadeandalucia.es/cultura/centrodocumentacionmusical/o...

 

Click "Documento Completo" and you will be directed to a page where you can download a digital copy (It's pretty big). There's a few pieces there but probably not what you're looking for.

[Martyn Hodgson]

Dear Scott,

Many thanks for this link. However I can only open a paper on the collection by Alvarez. Can you advise how to download the complete facsimile - or isn't this on offer?

Thanks Martyn

[Stuart Walsh]

This is an unusual pdf file. On my computer, anyway, it takes some time for pages to appear -  and this is reading a downloaded version , not online.

It appears to be a modern edition of the original - with critical notes? (Unfortunately I don't understand Spanish.) Were  the little pieces at the end originally in tablature and in music notation (with a bass line) as here?

Martyn, let me know if cannot download it.

[Martyn Hodgson]

Stuart,

I tried to dwnld again hoping to find the facsimile but failed....

If there's just the odd piece in the editor's (Alvarez) transcription I'm not so interested. 

rgds

Martyn

[Stuart Walsh]

As far as I can see there is no facsimile. On the other hand if you can read  Spanish I'm sure it would be very interesting.

There are about 15 short pieces at the end - mainly minuets, in modern notation with a lightly figured bass line (very unusual for guitar?) and some of the pieces are given in modern tablature as well.

[Stuart Walsh]

Sorry, I didn't mean 'modern' tablature - it's in Italian tablature that someone has been written in a tab program

[Thomas Schmitt]

Hello:

Vargas composed also 13 sonatas for guitar and bajo. They are published in 3 volumes by Juan José Escorza y J. Robles-Cahero in the Archivo general de la nación en México City in 1986 (ISBN: 968-8053132-9).

Thomas

[Jelma van Amersfoort]

O, thanks Thomas S. I do want that edition :-) Do we know what the bajo is supposed to be? A cello, or a second guitar, an organ or a harpsichord?

[Thomas Schmitt]

In a very interesting article by Antonio Corono Alcalde ("Dos sonatas novohispanas para guitarra del siglo xviii: un caso de musicologia forense", in: ANUARIO MUSICAL, 62, 2007, pp.205-228) the author says that the bass can be realized with a second guitar or a clave. He bases this on an advertisement in a newspaper where two guitar pieces are announced in 1788 as like: “Dos tiranas graciosas á solo, con baxo para guitarra ó clave, intituladas el sudor de la tirana, y el fandango Español.”

Best, Thomas

[Jelma van Amersfoort]

Thank you. Very cool. I need to learn Spanish, seriously. 

[Martyn Hodgson]

Bajo = basso (bass). Thus, any instrument capable of playing the bass line.

MH