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Some questions about playing from Robert de Visée’s Tablature.
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The introduction to his guitar books is a little hard as I don’t speak French. Am I right when I think «tremblement» is trill and «martellement» a mordent? Does «miolement» mean vibrato?A short…Continue

Started this discussion. Last reply by Olav Fylling Mar 26.

A question about Sanz and rasguado.
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I have noticed that many interpreters of Gaspar Sanz's music add rasguado sections that are not written in the tablature. Is there historical documentation of this freedom?Continue

Started this discussion. Last reply by Monica Hall Aug 9, 2016.

Single or double stringed first course on baroque guitar?
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Some weeks ago I bought a Tomann baroque guitar, and as Rob MacKillop showed in his review, the strings are not very good. Changing to Aquilla nylgut has given me a new instrument – I think it sounds…Continue

Started this discussion. Last reply by Chris Despopoulos Mar 17, 2011.

Ornaments and rasguado
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 Started to struggle with the lute July 2010, started with baroque guitar a couple of weeks ago, I have many questions. Here is two of them: 1. Is there a guide to the different signs for ornaments…Continue

Started this discussion. Last reply by Harry Jess Feb 25, 2011.

 

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Olav Fylling replied to Olav Fylling's discussion Some questions about playing from Robert de Visée’s Tablature.
"Thank You!"
Mar 26
Monica Hall replied to Olav Fylling's discussion Some questions about playing from Robert de Visée’s Tablature.
"This is it. Hope it is useful."
Mar 23
Olav Fylling replied to Olav Fylling's discussion Some questions about playing from Robert de Visée’s Tablature.
"Thank you for your answer. I would be very grateful for your translation. If you don't want to upload it here, I can send you my mail address."
Mar 22
Monica Hall replied to Olav Fylling's discussion Some questions about playing from Robert de Visée’s Tablature.
"In reply to your message which seems to be at the bottom of this page, the straight line is a bit ambiguous because he uses it under single notes as well as groups of two or three notes. E.g. at the end of the double to the courante - on p. 31 in…"
Mar 22
Monica Hall replied to Olav Fylling's discussion Some questions about playing from Robert de Visée’s Tablature.
"In reply to your message which seems to be at the bottom of this page, the straight line is a bit ambiguous because he uses it under single notes as well as groups of two or three notes. E.g. at the end of the double to the courante - on p. 31 in…"
Mar 22
Olav Fylling replied to Olav Fylling's discussion Some questions about playing from Robert de Visée’s Tablature.
"Monica Hall and Lex Eisenhardt, thank you for an interesting discussion. I have been too busy to read it carefully until now. I have two questions: 1. Lex, you say: “Therefore I suppose the vertical line just applies for the lowest notes of…"
Mar 22
Lex Eisenhardt replied to Olav Fylling's discussion Some questions about playing from Robert de Visée’s Tablature.
"Spanners can be useful though. I was referring to downstrokes without a sign. But yes, if there is a sign ­on ½ notes and dotted ¼ notes we could of course consider to include the third finger as well. However, I should say I have…"
Mar 21
Monica Hall replied to Olav Fylling's discussion Some questions about playing from Robert de Visée’s Tablature.
"Sorry if I am throwing a spanner in the works but De Visée has not said that downstrokes with a sign ­on ½ notes and dotted ¼ notes are to be played = m-i-p. He has said “it is necessary to run the fingers of the right…"
Mar 21
Lex Eisenhardt replied to Olav Fylling's discussion Some questions about playing from Robert de Visée’s Tablature.
"To clarify my point, the great majority of downstrokes are at ¼ notes and ⅛ notes. Like with upstrokes, this does not allow you to use more than one finger.  With ½ notes and dotted ¼ notes without a sign one could…"
Mar 20
Lex Eisenhardt replied to Olav Fylling's discussion Some questions about playing from Robert de Visée’s Tablature.
"Are there other options?  I don't think there are upstrokes with a sign. "
Mar 20
Monica Hall replied to Olav Fylling's discussion Some questions about playing from Robert de Visée’s Tablature.
"I have lost you here. What makes you think that all down-strokes without signs are supposed to be played only with the first finger?  And what about upstrokes with a sign? Perhaps there aren't any? I haven't checked."
Mar 20
Lex Eisenhardt replied to Olav Fylling's discussion Some questions about playing from Robert de Visée’s Tablature.
"It may not be as bad as it seems.   It appears that there are 5 ways to strike a chord: Downstrokes with a sign ­— ½ notes and dotted ¼ notes = m-i-p Downstrokes with a sign — ¼ notes and ⅛ notes =…"
Mar 20
Monica Hall replied to Olav Fylling's discussion Some questions about playing from Robert de Visée’s Tablature.
"Well – I think you are overlooking some quite serious problems really. For the most part he does not put in the signs at all. When they are used in the music they are used inconsistently so it is difficult to reach a definite…"
Mar 19
Lex Eisenhardt replied to Olav Fylling's discussion Some questions about playing from Robert de Visée’s Tablature.
"Never blindly follow the opinions of others, even if they are French....  To the example (1686) p. 35, line 2, last measure: There are more half notes with a curved line beneath the stave. See (1686) p. 43, line 1, measure 4 and line 3,…"
Mar 19
Monica Hall replied to Olav Fylling's discussion Some questions about playing from Robert de Visée’s Tablature.
"I am sorry to press the point, but I am afraid you are mistaken. You seem to have misunderstood both the French and what I have said about it. If you have the edition of De Visée’s books published by Editions Transatlantiques then read…"
Mar 19
Lex Eisenhardt replied to Olav Fylling's discussion Some questions about playing from Robert de Visée’s Tablature.
"I don't think we can say that the difference is due to carelessness on the part of the engraver. Nor that it implies that they are meant to be different. It could even be that for his 1686 book he corrected the example, to avoid that…"
Mar 19

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Working as a teacher near Oslo.
I have played classical guitar since I was a teenager.
I am interested in many kinds of music, and have always loved playing early music.
Last year I have bought a renaissance lute and a Baroque guitar -- Pakistani student instruments both.

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At 11:16 on February 18, 2019, frode olsen said…

Robert de Visee  - Baroque Guitar info on web.                                        Alexander Dunn - Style and development in the Theorbo works of                       R D Visee. Guitar translation on side 190.                                                            C Liddell -The Guitar ,Theorbo and Lute works of R D Visee.

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