"a photo of one I once had, and another from a book. Please remember, I am not saying that it IS by the Roudhloffs. "
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Anyone care to identify this early guitar?
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I acquired this in a ruined state and have restored it (mostly needed mastic edging redone and was missing many of the ivory frets so I replaced with bone). Unmarked. Flamed maple body. I believe it…Continue
Started this discussion. Last reply by James Westbrook Nov 30, 2023.
Historic Lyre guitar circa 1800
Stamped "Gratel" on belly.In excellent condition..... except action is a bit low as far as right hand finger clearnce above the belly and this should probably be adjusted while perhaps replacing some…Continue
Started Apr 27, 2021
early shorter string length romantic guitar for sale
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historic guitar circa 1840s. Evidence of a few past repairs and wear, but in good working order, robust and stable. Big bright sound.Original friction pegs.redone square brass frets.59cm string…Continue
Started this discussion. Last reply by Alan Dana Lewis Apr 26, 2021.
early shorter string length romantic guitar for sale
historic guitar circa 1840s. Evidence of a few past repairs and wear, but in good working order, robust and stable. Big bright sound.Original friction pegs.redone square metal frets.59cm string…Continue
Started Apr 20, 2021
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"you are right 1810s"
"Ah, thanks I'll scope the inside more thoroughly to look for a stamp. A guess on the decade?"
"It's 100% French (100% not Italian), Mirecourt. possible an early Roudhloff. They sometimes stamped their guitars inside on the linings. But never seen their decoration (inlays) in that style. "
Anyone care to identify this early guitar?
I acquired this in a ruined state and have restored it (mostly needed mastic edging redone and was missing many of the ivory frets so I replaced with bone). Unmarked. Flamed maple body. I believe it is Italian circa 1800-1810. Note the fingerboard is fully inset. See More
Historic Lyre guitar circa 1800
Stamped "Gratel" on belly.In excellent condition..... except action is a bit low as far as right hand finger clearnce above the belly and this should probably be adjusted while perhaps replacing some of the bone frets which are worn. Unless this is to be a museum piece. It's got a gorgeous sound though, so would be good to get it to perfect working order.Shell inlay dots.String length 59cm.Located in Portland Oregon.Buyer to pay packaging and shipping.$2500 USDSee More
"Please let me know. Interested...
Nice size for me...
Alan
alandana@mindspring.com"
"I would be interested in this short scale. I have 1 other at 60cm. I play a lot of violin... so this is perfect for my playing.
Can you send me pictures... ?
alandana@mindspring.com
Alan"
"Christopher,
I would have interest in a short scale romantic.
Let me know,
Alan"
"Hi Chris, I just noticed it looks like you have this guitar back on the market. I have moved to Eugene so maybe we can have a visit one of these days, and it would be fun to check out the guitar in person. edwardsguitar@gmail.com "
"And now back on!"
"Thanks for your feedback Roman. Having had the guitar up from the basement for a few days, I'm realizing I'm a fool to part with it until the point where I give up on romantic guitar entirely....I probably won't find another one this…"
"This will definitively sell fast, it is a superb example of an Lacote(for a fraction of the cost).
If I were in the USA I would ask for Loan (if needed) to buy it..."
"It's a nice Lacote school guitar: a good price for America, and should sell. But I am writing to you because I am interested in learning more about your Lyre guitar playing. Could we talk though j@theguitarmuseum.com please? thank you, James"
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- At 8:09 on April 18, 2016,
Sinier de Ridder said…
Bastien was a luthier from Mirecourt, he worked during the frontier 18/19th century, he went to Turin, then to Nice which was Italian town at this period. His guitars are well considered, sometimes in the Turin school, sometimes in the Mirecourt shape. Can you post a photo of the brand?
Thanks, Françoise
- At 1:22 on December 30, 2015,
Rocky Mjos said…
Welcome to the EG+V network, Christopher!
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