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Luys Milan's Pavan
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Does anybody know what I need to purchase (sheetmusic) in order to learn Luys Milans Pavan II? Is there a beginner version out there?It is such a lovely short piece that I now absolutely need to…Continue

Started this discussion. Last reply by Michael P Walker Jun 28.

Vihuela tuning
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I am trying to understand how a vihuela is to be tuned. Is it literaly tuned like the guitar with the exception of the third string (E,A,D,F#,B,E)?What does it mean when a vihuela is tuned to a A, of…Continue

Started this discussion. Last reply by Yuri Liman Jun 27.

Specifications for Julian Breams BG and Vihuela?
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Hello all!Does anybody know the specifications to the Julian Bream BG and Vihuela?Especially when it comes to the width and length? It looks alot wider and alot longer than the average BG or Vihuela.…Continue

Started this discussion. Last reply by Isidro alcantar Jun 19.

UPS continues to deliver nothing but grief

After making me wait an entire day, UPS didnt arrive until 1:39pm. The driver argued with me that he was here to deliver a package but could not find it. Through great strain and stress I had to…Continue

Started Jun 1

 

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Isidro alcantar left a comment for Michael Fink
"Hello Mr. Fink, I live in the next city over, Westminster. Are you still in Huntington Beach? It would be great to meet you since it is so difficult to find others who are interested in the baroque guitar. I see you have not been active on the site.…"
Jul 14
Michael P Walker replied to Isidro alcantar's discussion Luys Milan's Pavan
"It's a pleasure - Hope you enjoy!"
Jun 28
Isidro alcantar replied to Isidro alcantar's discussion Luys Milan's Pavan
"That is super cool! Thanks so much Michael!"
Jun 28
Michael P Walker replied to Isidro alcantar's discussion Luys Milan's Pavan
"I have transcribed the 6 pavanes and two fantasias into tablature and modern notation by Milan for Renaissance guitar, guitar, and baritone ukulele and it is available here:…"
Jun 28
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Luys Milan's Pavan

Does anybody know what I need to purchase (sheetmusic) in order to learn Luys Milans Pavan II? Is there a beginner version out there?It is such a lovely short piece that I now absolutely need to learn it!Thank you in advance!See More
Jun 28
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"Does anybody know what I need to purchase (sheetmusic) in order to learn Luys Milans Pavana II? Is there a beginner version out there?"
Jun 28
Yuri Liman replied to Isidro alcantar's discussion Vihuela tuning
"Sorry, I do not know what you mean by Vihuelista... But anyway if it is not a strumming accompaniment it does not make much difference really...  it should be just loud enough not to be covered by singer. As per continuo...  genrally…"
Jun 27
Isidro alcantar replied to Isidro alcantar's discussion Vihuela tuning
"Thanks for replying Yuri, I would use it for Vihuelista pieces that require accompaniment.  The University I am planing to attend has a continuo course that often turns into a baroque ensemble of sorts and I want to be able to…"
Jun 27
Yuri Liman replied to Isidro alcantar's discussion Vihuela tuning
"You are right, of course, Monica. Thank you. I played mostly Milan and just mixed it all up."
Jun 26
Yuri Liman replied to Isidro alcantar's discussion Vihuela tuning
"Let's figure it out step by step 1) First scale and tuning...  60 cm and G tuning is most common today I believe (just as renaissance lute). If you doubt about convinience, put a capo on the 3rd fret of your guitar and play some vihuela…"
Jun 26
Isidro alcantar replied to Isidro alcantar's discussion Vihuela tuning
"I understand now and agree Yuri. What is your opinion as far as a vihuela in A being used for both solo and accompaniment as opposed to one in the key of E? "
Jun 26
Isidro alcantar replied to Isidro alcantar's discussion Vihuela tuning
"Yes, thank you I have a much better understanding now. It seems to me that a vihuela in A would be ideal as providing a bit more comfort and ease of playing. Now, Being that it is a smaller scale instrument, would it suffice for accompaniment? Would…"
Jun 26
Monica Hall replied to Isidro alcantar's discussion Vihuela tuning
"Only Luis Milan's tablature is "upside down" or "downside up". All the others are in standard Italian tab. The lowest line of the stave is the  highest sounding course.  I agree with you - if you want to play the…"
Jun 26
Yuri Liman replied to Isidro alcantar's discussion Vihuela tuning
"If you switch from classical guitar to lutes or vihuela I would not go for compromises...  to me it's better to pick up normal vihuela with its regular tuning and treat it as a different instrument...  Vihuela music is sin sapnish…"
Jun 26
Monica Hall replied to Isidro alcantar's discussion Vihuela tuning
"The point is = the vihuela is usually smaller than the guitar. The highest course is tuned to a' or g'  rather than e'; the 3rd is between the 4th and 5th courses rather than the 2nd and 3rd, A vihuela with the first course tuned…"
Jun 26
Isidro alcantar replied to Isidro alcantar's discussion Vihuela tuning
"Hello Valery and thank you for taking the time to reply. Being that I am familiar with the classical guitar, I would want to purchase a vihuela in E but would this allow me to learn the more traditional and popular music or would I need a different…"
Jun 24

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I am taking classical guitar lessons and now am very interested in learning the baroque guitar. I work full time and am taking one college class a semester. I enjoy conecting with people.

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At 9:38 on January 5, 2017, Monica Hall said…

Your query about Tempi in the pieces - there are no hard and fast rules. At least one 17th century sources advise players to chose a speed which is comfortable for them.  If the texture of the piece is complex then take it at a modest pace. Very generally allemandes are on the slow side, courants fairly brisk, sarabandes very slow and gigues as fast as you can manage.Other pieces it is depends on how difficult they are and how good a player you are. People seem to think there is a "right" or "authentic" answer to these questions but I don't think there is.  Individual responses to the music with different. Hope that is helpful.

At 9:13 on January 3, 2017, Monica Hall said…

P.P.S. It is available on Amazon.  The full title is Ad hunc modum - Musica ed manuscrits catalan/Sanz/Guerau. Hope that is helpful.

At 9:09 on January 3, 2017, Monica Hall said…

P.S. The 3 pieces from E-Bbc Ms. M73/691/2  and the Xacona from E.Bbc Ms. 3656 in the section of pieces in Italian tablature have been recorded by Alfred Fernandez on the CD "Ad hunc modum" - La Ma de Guido LMG 2044 in 2001. I don't know if it is still available.

 
 
 

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