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Castro de Gistau. Journal de musique
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Yes I think you are right Jelma....it's all a bit confusing me with Castro publishing Sor in a journal, and Meissonnier publishing Sor in a journal.... it's true there are little details I was wanting to overlook, such as that Castro's title is 'L...
Hello Martin
There are some reference books that let one date sheet music from this time, based on publisher address. I used them in the past. I can give you titles if you like :-)
I think Castro's and Porro's 'Journal's were different periodica...
I discovered there are clues for roughly dating this Castro collection. Some pieces by Sor were published in 'Le Journal', so I checked Brian Jeffery's book on Sor..... Castro was born in 1770, and there is a reference (dated1969) to Le Journal be...
Haha. You are right :-)
there are some more songs if you search - Auber - (one is Auber/Carcassi), other search words - lyre , brings up duos with violin, chittarra, guittarra, guitarra, all bring up songs, - I think... memory, - somehow I knew the Castro would please Je...
From the guitar part, I'd say late 18th century? He is clearly a transitional composer, writing guitar music both for 5 course/5 string guitar and 6 string guitar/lyra. All the more interesting, as for a I'm concerned :-)
Check for "La Gavotte de Vestris" it has an interesting set of Folia variations. Curiously, you do not need the low E string for these variations. How old are these supposed to be???
Fantastic find!! I love Castro... a very small portion of this stuff has been published previously by SPES, but lots of new things here! This is really exciting :-) Can't wait to try some pieces.
www.digitale-sammlungen.de/~db/ausgaben/uni_ausgabe.html?projekt=1199863919&ordnung=sig&recherche=ja
This takes you more directly to the music collection - I've found that doing a search for - guitare, brings up 3 items, including the Castro, and...
for the romantic guitarist- found a large Castro de Gistau collection here -
www.digitale-sammlungen.de -
when the page comes up, click on Digitale sammlungen, on next page that comes up, in the author title search enter: castro journal - and car...
It's de Visee's theorbo collection that contains the Ouverture set in F minor... not lute.
I also play 8 course renaissance lute, not as often as guitar - but a lot of the time I play renaissance lute and vihuela music on my guitar anyway ( 3rd st...
you should go and look at the collections available from - www.musickshandmade.com/lute/ -
the de Visee lute and theorbo collections both have a number of such pieces. Have fun adapting them, (and let me know what works well ! )
Perhaps I should add (for those who enjoy playing baroque on modern guitar , which I do) that the 'Ouverture de la Grotte' is arranged by de Visee in G minor, and is rather awkward to just transfer to modern guitar - but if one transposes it down ...
If you're meaning to include modern arrangements, there's one at -
www.delcamp.net/auteurs/en/2_baroque/rameau_en.html
- a performance which I think is spiffing - page includes a pdf file underneath the video.
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- I've been dabbling with renaissance lute, cittern, and 4course guitar since 2001 thanks to the joys of instrument kits. Don't always follow instructions though... always the artistic licence. Not really the correct type of rose for a 4course git.... methinks I have a slightly medieval way with decoration. Feel quite proud...until I see all the pictures of beautifully built instruments that appear on this site!
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- At 9:57pm on October 9, 2009,
James Tyler said… - Hi Martin,
I don't think it is likely that any more items will be seen from Chanterelle. The editor long ago sold his rights to Schott's and that publisher has shown no signs of any action for many years.
If you want to find out what is available in facsimile editions of early guitar music, you should go to the catalogs of OMI and check out their plucked instrument list at www.omifacsimiles.com. They carry the remainder of Chanterelle's output as well as the publications of all other facsimile publishers.
- At 8:14pm on October 4, 2009,
Fábio Vianna Peres said… - Hi Martin, thank you for pointing me out the Monica Hall's website. Lots of good stuff there!
- At 8:44pm on September 18, 2009,
Jelma van Amersfoort said…
- Hi Martin, the words are more or less: "At night I don't rest, you're always there, in my heart and mind, you're the guilty one."
- At 1:45am on September 9, 2009,
Harlan Kemp said…
- Hey Martin:
There is now a lot of info on the internet now on preparing and using Hide glue, but follow the manufacter of the glue's instructions. Pretty much standard for instruments is a 2:1 ratio mix glue granules to water.
Let that soak at room temp for a couple hours, allowing flakes absorb the moisture, and you get a tapioca looking glob, then heat to 145 F until this all dissolves down to a consistent liquid, and you have glue. Store in refridgerator.
Things I learned: I use distilled water, baby section at grocery store under a buck/ gallon. I sterilize that, 20 mins at a light (not rocking) boil and then keep in sterile mazon jars for later use.
I always store my glue in the refridgerator if I wish to use it over the three day life span. Each day take hot glue and put away.
I watch my temperature, NEVER letting that go above 155, otherwise toss the glue.
I make up small batches, a teaspoon usually is enough for a day or two.
I have started keeping the glue in the freezer for longer storage time, but not for immeadiate use, once thawed never refreeze. So far with good working results.
I make up 50 to 100 ml at a time, and store all of this in 5 to 10 ml tubelets (plastic) to place in the freezer. You could use sall syringes as well. I thaw 2 or 3 of these as needed, and can be used in no more than 4 days.
4 day old glue is no good, it will fail, it is just too old.
I use a reallllly expensive ($10-$12) cheese crock pot, Small thing at nearby stores, cooking departments. I add a meat thermometer to this. Add a rheostat if it doesn't have a temp control.
Dry glue in sealed can is good till Manufacter expiration date.
THe time invested in preparing the hide glue is worth the effort, especially when you set up for small batch work and freezing the smaller amounts.
I do not add Urea or other thoughtful addatives. Things that change the chemistry of the glue.
Later I will be making a web page, and showing how I make and implement hide glue and will post a link if allowed.
Go forth, get sticky, once you get used to using hide glue, you will swear by it. You may eat it but don't.
I hope this helps
Tim
- At 9:25pm on August 29, 2009,
Glenn Godsey said… - Thank you, Martin. It is nice to have a friend.
- At 5:15pm on July 21, 2009,
Jose Verdi said… - Hola, Martin:
Muy interesante y practica la inerpretación de los comentarios de Coste. El resultado tiene que ser altamente efectivo. Felicitaciones.
José Verdi
- At 9:37pm on July 15, 2009,
Jelma van Amersfoort said…
- Hello Martin, thanks for the link! I'm going to have a look...
- At 9:20am on July 14, 2009,
Jelma van Amersfoort said…
- Hello Martin, welcome here... I think it is a good thing to not always follow instructions. And that guitar rose looks attractive nevertheless. I did not know there were kits for renaissance guitar? Could you tell more about that?
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