Thanks! No, I don't have the baroque guitar right now. I played it at Krieglach. And now I am looking for one! The problem is that all baroque guitars cost more than 2000 euros... :(( Here in Russia it's quite a lot of money, and I cannot yet afford that price! So, I am looking for used baroque guitar or maybe a student model which is not so expensive.... Before I find one I am planning to convert my 12-string guitar into a baroque one... I will change nut and saddle in a way so it would be sort of like on the baroque guitar (4 chords + 1 string)... And I will use metal strings, so it will be my first guitar battente :)) Yes, I know, sound wise it would be completely different instrument, but my goal is to at least practise the technique on it before I get a real instrument....
В Москве сейчас стало прохладно... +8... Эх, упустил я шанс купить барочную гитару у Михаила Федченко... А теперь он их больше не делает, говорит, что нашел себе другую хорошо оплачиваемую работу....
Oh, sure, I am very interested in your proposal! In fact that's what I am looking for! I would not mind at all the undecorated instrument. I wouldn't mind the absence of the decoration, even the rosette (no rosette is fine for me now), no bindings etc. All that matters for me now is that the feel is there and that it is set up well! And if you say that it will even sound as well as a good instrument, then it's great! Please let me know when you could have the possibility to make one baroque guiar like that! Thanks in advance!
Приятно все-таки по-русски пообщаться!
С мастером тем такая вышла история. Я к нему в Питер приехал и мы договорились, что он мне сделает инструмент без декораций, без розетки, с прямой задней декой (не выгнутой)... Договорились мы на 500 евро, но денег у меня тогда с собой не было и я сказал, что как только они у меня появятся, я ему позвоню.... Затем прошло полгода, у меня появились деньги и я поехал по делам в Питер. Там пришел к нему... А он говорит, что мол теперь нашел новую хорошо оплачиваемую работу и нет времени делать мне инструмент... Если бы он и взялся, то за дорогой инструмент с декорациями и т.д.
Ну, я его не виню, надо было мне самому ему звонить заранее и говорить, что все в силе и я коплю деньги....
А может оно и к лучшему.... Однако это было для меня самое подходящее по деньгам предложение....
О! Кстати на семинаре в Криглахе мне Лислеванд дал упражнятся гитару, на которой был записан его альбом Santiago de Murcia codex 4! Отличный инструмент, могу прислать фото... Правда сейчас у него основная гитара другая... А на этой играет его согрупник Thor-Harald Johnsen...
Thank you Alexander for your kind words. At the time (years ago...) I recorded the Fuenllana I didn't have a vihuela yet, so I used my baroque guitar strung like a 5 course vihuela according to Fuellana's instructions ;-)...
The drawings by Rabel come from a collection of costume studies for Le Ballet de la Douairière de Billebahaut dansé par Sa Majesté en février 1626 and they are kept at Musée du Louvre, Département des Arts Graphiques.
I will post more iconographical documents soon !
All the colour pictures of ballet musicians come from the same source : the costumes for the Ballet de la Douairière de Billebahaut (1626). I join another picture showing servants following the guitarists from Granada, carrying their guitar cases on horseback ! (same date, of course)
Jean-Marie
I'm really impressed by your infos and the photos on your site, and the sound of your instruments as played by Rob (but it's Rob!). In fact I'm interested in eventually having a vihuela from you , but can't find your mailbox... All the best
Mr. Batov,
I'm interested in building a Viola da mano something like the one on your site ("dai Libri" model Viola da mano in G (SL 56cm)). I'm a novice luthier currently working on a lute from David Van Edwards "Build your own Renaissance lute" course. I'm a lefty with an interest in building my own instruments. I was wondering if you drew your own plans for this instrument or if they are available somewhere. If you drew your own, what dimensions did you use? Thank you,
Thank you! That is interesting that corner blocks were not used. I guess I'm looking for the dimensions of the body. I was planning on building it to be tuned as a 6-course lute in "g". Somewhere I saw a scale length of 56cm, but I'm not sure if that is correct. As long as I get the scale length correct, and am fairly close to the correct the body dimensions I'll be happy. It's for my own personal use. I'll probably draw up my own plans as well. Did you use a mold or free-air build?
I might also build a steel-string guitar of the same basic shape in the future. I'm curious about the sound of the viola de mano comapared to vihuelas of the more "guitarish" shape. Thanks again Alexander!
Is the second guitar are you web page (66cm) an example of an unveneered Bubinga neck? If it is, It looks nice with the dark Cocabolo body. Is it stable over time as an unveneered neck wood?
The Bubinga that I have access to is very red/orange and would have to be veneered if using a maple body, but I like this idea. I agree that solid heavy woods are better for sustain.
Best,
Mike
Hi Alexander,
I just read your page on historical rosettes. Well done!
I am curious if you have noticed a distinctive difference in sound and volume between the three types of roses?
I have come to my own concussions with lute rose designs, but as you pointed out, the entire soundboard, rose, and barring relationship on a guitar or vehuela are completely different.
Best,
Mike
No, the central inlay is silver, like the original. I did this inlay thwelve years ago and finished the instrument last week. I started the copy follow Egberto Bermudez information and finished helped with Ariel's pictures in your web. Thank you.
Thanks you for your web page and articles. The idea to make these vihuela started in a "Cursos Manuel de Falla" in Granada, in a conversation with John Griffiths who encourage me to make a Quito copy better than a Jaquemart copy (in these days the only two vihuelas well-known).
Hello! just came from a vihuela lesson with Tommy Andersson; I'm working on 4 narvaez fantasias and a milan 'consonancias y redobles'. We wondered about placement of the frets and your views on tunning? Also how would you recommend stringing it? the bass courses? thinnest top course?
Alexander, Great to see you! I have not had any news from you in recent weeks. I hope everything is fine. Just let me know which arrangement suits you best. Best wishes, Bernhard
Alexander, I've heard that modern recreations/replicas (not yours, but in general) of the Stradivari 88 guitar have trouble dealing with string tension when braced per plan.----The sound boards flex, throw the action off, and strain under normal gut tension. I don't have that many Baroque Guitar plans to compare it to, and haven't ever built this guitar. However, I have seen other models (including French models) show strain under tension and am puzzled by the lack of bracing near the bridge.
I have found "Blue Spruce" to be stiff beyond imagination and likely to hold up under tension. However, I really hate the idea of going outside the realm of "plausible materials" to make it work.
If this subject has already been well addressed and discussed, I apologize for being out of the loop---I mostly build lutes.
Best,
Mike
Hello, Alexander,
I have a 17th century Brazilian Viola picture, but not in my computer. I'll scan that and post as soon as possible, maybe today.
Thanks for recomendation.
Best wishes,
Fernando.
Alexander, thank you for the info and link. The irony is that Mel lives 80 miles from me and we talk often on the phone. ---But have never discussed baroque guitar bracing!
After seeing the pics, I noticed that the original Voboam brace (removed and replaced with the diagonal brace) is much closer to the bridge than the bracing shown on my Stradavari plan. I should probably measure the location my plan and tell you who drafted it, and when.
I'm currently in Los Angeles (playing the lute on the TV show "House"), and won't be home for another 2 days. I will look into it when I return.
Thanks again,
Mike
Hello Alexander, I made a mistake about the period of the first viola, from Minas Gerais. It's really from 18th cent.ury, as you said. These violas are from 18th and 19th century. I'll correct this information. Thank you, Fernando
Саш, приветствую)! рад сердешно повидать неожиданно), мои контакты все в силе и действии, так что как что звони услышимся( эт я на счет инструмента), а пока всего наилучшего, Джаки привет!....
Alexander: Some time ago I posted a picture of an opened Fabricatore guitar and you expressed doubt that the braces were original especially the diagonal. I was perusing through my photo collection and I have two additional photos for you to examine. The braces appear to be of the same age , similar bulk and style in which they were cut, and there appears to be no other scars where there may have been any other brace placements. What has been your experience with Fabricatore guitars? Is there a possibility that this may be a fake ? The label appears to be similar to labels presented in many books , but even so that might be counterfeited as well. Opinion?
In fact we are! I wanted to send you a message but it was refused as we were not yet official friends!!!!
Can you tell me when you make a so-called "romantic guitar", I'd like to see and try it if possible. I still enjoy very much playing the barok guitar and the vihuela. Those days are frustrating as I broke my left arm last sunday while sailing on the channel, 4 weeks without playing, concerts concealed... all the best, Patrig
I started playing baroque guitar for a few days but then had to give it back to its owner but now I am really excited as today I have started hiring a renaissance guitar from the lute society :-). Yes I can't wait to play with Yair's kapsperger etc..
Rob MacKillop
Rob
Sep 15, 2008
Andrew Hartig
Sep 15, 2008
Yar Kislov
В Москве сейчас стало прохладно... +8... Эх, упустил я шанс купить барочную гитару у Михаила Федченко... А теперь он их больше не делает, говорит, что нашел себе другую хорошо оплачиваемую работу....
Sep 19, 2008
Yar Kislov
Приятно все-таки по-русски пообщаться!
С мастером тем такая вышла история. Я к нему в Питер приехал и мы договорились, что он мне сделает инструмент без декораций, без розетки, с прямой задней декой (не выгнутой)... Договорились мы на 500 евро, но денег у меня тогда с собой не было и я сказал, что как только они у меня появятся, я ему позвоню.... Затем прошло полгода, у меня появились деньги и я поехал по делам в Питер. Там пришел к нему... А он говорит, что мол теперь нашел новую хорошо оплачиваемую работу и нет времени делать мне инструмент... Если бы он и взялся, то за дорогой инструмент с декорациями и т.д.
Ну, я его не виню, надо было мне самому ему звонить заранее и говорить, что все в силе и я коплю деньги....
А может оно и к лучшему.... Однако это было для меня самое подходящее по деньгам предложение....
О! Кстати на семинаре в Криглахе мне Лислеванд дал упражнятся гитару, на которой был записан его альбом Santiago de Murcia codex 4! Отличный инструмент, могу прислать фото... Правда сейчас у него основная гитара другая... А на этой играет его согрупник Thor-Harald Johnsen...
Sep 20, 2008
Jean-Marie Poirier
The drawings by Rabel come from a collection of costume studies for Le Ballet de la Douairière de Billebahaut dansé par Sa Majesté en février 1626 and they are kept at Musée du Louvre, Département des Arts Graphiques.
I will post more iconographical documents soon !
Jean-Marie
Oct 3, 2008
Jean-Marie Poirier
Jean-Marie
Oct 3, 2008
jean michel Catherinot
Jan 21, 2009
Mark Day
I'm interested in building a Viola da mano something like the one on your site ("dai Libri" model Viola da mano in G (SL 56cm)). I'm a novice luthier currently working on a lute from David Van Edwards "Build your own Renaissance lute" course. I'm a lefty with an interest in building my own instruments. I was wondering if you drew your own plans for this instrument or if they are available somewhere. If you drew your own, what dimensions did you use? Thank you,
Mark
Jan 23, 2009
Mark Day
Thank you! That is interesting that corner blocks were not used. I guess I'm looking for the dimensions of the body. I was planning on building it to be tuned as a 6-course lute in "g". Somewhere I saw a scale length of 56cm, but I'm not sure if that is correct. As long as I get the scale length correct, and am fairly close to the correct the body dimensions I'll be happy. It's for my own personal use. I'll probably draw up my own plans as well. Did you use a mold or free-air build?
I might also build a steel-string guitar of the same basic shape in the future. I'm curious about the sound of the viola de mano comapared to vihuelas of the more "guitarish" shape. Thanks again Alexander!
Mark
Jan 26, 2009
michael Bocchicchio
The Bubinga that I have access to is very red/orange and would have to be veneered if using a maple body, but I like this idea. I agree that solid heavy woods are better for sustain.
Best,
Mike
Mar 26, 2009
michael Bocchicchio
I just read your page on historical rosettes. Well done!
I am curious if you have noticed a distinctive difference in sound and volume between the three types of roses?
I have come to my own concussions with lute rose designs, but as you pointed out, the entire soundboard, rose, and barring relationship on a guitar or vehuela are completely different.
Best,
Mike
Mar 27, 2009
Aarón García Ruiz
No, the central inlay is silver, like the original. I did this inlay thwelve years ago and finished the instrument last week. I started the copy follow Egberto Bermudez information and finished helped with Ariel's pictures in your web. Thank you.
Best regards.
Aarón García
Mar 27, 2009
Aarón García Ruiz
Thanks you for your web page and articles. The idea to make these vihuela started in a "Cursos Manuel de Falla" in Granada, in a conversation with John Griffiths who encourage me to make a Quito copy better than a Jaquemart copy (in these days the only two vihuelas well-known).
Best regards.
Aarón
Mar 28, 2009
jean michel Catherinot
Apr 24, 2009
Oskar de Mari-Jones
Jun 2, 2009
Oskar de Mari-Jones
Jun 4, 2009
Bernhard Hofstötter
Oct 19, 2009
michael Bocchicchio
I have found "Blue Spruce" to be stiff beyond imagination and likely to hold up under tension. However, I really hate the idea of going outside the realm of "plausible materials" to make it work.
If this subject has already been well addressed and discussed, I apologize for being out of the loop---I mostly build lutes.
Best,
Mike
Jan 5, 2010
Fernando Lewis de Mattos
I have a 17th century Brazilian Viola picture, but not in my computer. I'll scan that and post as soon as possible, maybe today.
Thanks for recomendation.
Best wishes,
Fernando.
Jan 25, 2010
Fernando Lewis de Mattos
I posted photos of Brazilian violas, but resolution is not so good. I'll scan in a better resolution later.
My bests,
Fernando.
Jan 25, 2010
michael Bocchicchio
After seeing the pics, I noticed that the original Voboam brace (removed and replaced with the diagonal brace) is much closer to the bridge than the bracing shown on my Stradavari plan. I should probably measure the location my plan and tell you who drafted it, and when.
I'm currently in Los Angeles (playing the lute on the TV show "House"), and won't be home for another 2 days. I will look into it when I return.
Thanks again,
Mike
Feb 3, 2010
Fernando Lewis de Mattos
Feb 23, 2010
Oleg Boiko
Mar 3, 2010
mel
May 24, 2010
Kernoa Patrig
Can you tell me when you make a so-called "romantic guitar", I'd like to see and try it if possible. I still enjoy very much playing the barok guitar and the vihuela. Those days are frustrating as I broke my left arm last sunday while sailing on the channel, 4 weeks without playing, concerts concealed... all the best, Patrig
Jun 9, 2010
Jennifer Bennett
Mar 15, 2011
jean michel Catherinot
May 19, 2011
Nick O'Sullivan
Sep 22, 2011