Vihuela building - Early Guitars and Vihuela2024-03-28T15:42:49Zhttp://earlyguitar.ning.com/forum/topics/vihuela-building?id=2111060%3ATopic%3A11731&feed=yes&xn_auth=noThank you Jan van Cappelle:
I…tag:earlyguitar.ning.com,2011-04-05:2111060:Comment:215162011-04-05T12:50:12.463ZHarlan Kemphttp://earlyguitar.ning.com/profile/HarlanKemp
<p>Thank you Jan van Cappelle:</p>
<p>I like this little joke, as it taunts at research I have been doing, called the geometry factor of string instruments. There are many many depictions, of violins, guitars and more trying to show a geometrical basis to the shape of these instruments, and a good foundation to the idea of how the shape was formed. Everything from clothoids, curtate cycloids, triangular theory, circle theory, and geometric ways of explaining the basic shape of the instruments.…</p>
<p>Thank you Jan van Cappelle:</p>
<p>I like this little joke, as it taunts at research I have been doing, called the geometry factor of string instruments. There are many many depictions, of violins, guitars and more trying to show a geometrical basis to the shape of these instruments, and a good foundation to the idea of how the shape was formed. Everything from clothoids, curtate cycloids, triangular theory, circle theory, and geometric ways of explaining the basic shape of the instruments. Intriguing they are, and I can see how Torres most likely applied such concepts in his designs of the more modern guitar. I do not remember where I first saw violin all engulfed in circles, but could only think of the relationship of Da Vinci when seeing it.</p>
<p>I am familiar with the Book of Kevin Coates, yet have not acquired a copy... hmmm</p>
<p>Interesting, maybe one way to concept a musical instrument. FUN to study, one step at a time to some secret lost in the winds of age.</p>
<p>It would be wonderful to work from an original instrument and do a replica (clone, copy, Faux) to sink my teeth into the detail of that time period.</p>
<p>I am glad the joke runs along the line of Da Vinci rather than say Van Gogh, I just like clear and solid lines :)</p>
<p> Back to work now, someone is screaming for a Baritone Ukulele to be finished :) and will be visit this Friday to see how it is coming along.</p>
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<p>Good day to all!</p>
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<p>Tim</p>
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<p> </p> It's a little joke based on t…tag:earlyguitar.ning.com,2011-04-05:2111060:Comment:215002011-04-05T05:03:04.302ZJan van Cappellehttp://earlyguitar.ning.com/profile/JanvanCappelle
<p>It's a little joke based on the book of Kevin Coates. Drawn on A3 paper and browned with thea to look like an old Da Vinci document.</p>
<p><br/>The outline of the guitar pictured in the drawing is actually the Belchior Dias 1581.</p>
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<p>You can find more information about this instrument on the sites of Alexander Batov (also a member of this forum) and Stephen Barber.</p>
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<p>It's a little joke based on the book of Kevin Coates. Drawn on A3 paper and browned with thea to look like an old Da Vinci document.</p>
<p><br/>The outline of the guitar pictured in the drawing is actually the Belchior Dias 1581.</p>
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<p>You can find more information about this instrument on the sites of Alexander Batov (also a member of this forum) and Stephen Barber.</p>
<p> </p> Wow, time does get away when…tag:earlyguitar.ning.com,2011-04-01:2111060:Comment:213162011-04-01T15:21:42.149ZHarlan Kemphttp://earlyguitar.ning.com/profile/HarlanKemp
<p>Wow, time does get away when life strikes.</p>
<p>Back on my feet and returning to the shop finally :)</p>
<p>I am catching up today and find here the drawing posted by Jan van Cappelle and think that might work actually for a plan to convert. I will not or can not do this with out knowing/ referring to the source of the drawing posted.I honor the rights aspects of others, so is there a contact for this drawing?</p>
<p>Otherwise I will go forth with designing what I can from what I acquire…</p>
<p>Wow, time does get away when life strikes.</p>
<p>Back on my feet and returning to the shop finally :)</p>
<p>I am catching up today and find here the drawing posted by Jan van Cappelle and think that might work actually for a plan to convert. I will not or can not do this with out knowing/ referring to the source of the drawing posted.I honor the rights aspects of others, so is there a contact for this drawing?</p>
<p>Otherwise I will go forth with designing what I can from what I acquire in knowledge.</p>
<p>It is good to be back in the shop, ahhhhhh</p>
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<p>Tim</p> Maybe a little help to draw a…tag:earlyguitar.ning.com,2010-12-05:2111060:Comment:192062010-12-05T11:49:42.206ZJan van Cappellehttp://earlyguitar.ning.com/profile/JanvanCappelle
Maybe a little help to draw an outline...<br />
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<a href="http://earlyguitar.ning.com/photo/belchior-da-vinci?context=user" target="_blank">http://earlyguitar.ning.com/photo/belchior-da-vinci?context=user</a><br />
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The Dias and 1602 Koch guitar and Chambure vihuela are quite similar in the style of their outline.
Maybe a little help to draw an outline...<br />
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<a href="http://earlyguitar.ning.com/photo/belchior-da-vinci?context=user" target="_blank">http://earlyguitar.ning.com/photo/belchior-da-vinci?context=user</a><br />
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The Dias and 1602 Koch guitar and Chambure vihuela are quite similar in the style of their outline. I built a vihuela from Scott…tag:earlyguitar.ning.com,2010-12-03:2111060:Comment:191562010-12-03T15:30:24.156ZMark Dayhttp://earlyguitar.ning.com/profile/MarkDay
I built a vihuela from Scott Tremblay's GAL plan of an 1816 salon guitar. It has a 60cm string length, the back and sides are EI rosewood, the top is Engleman spruce, the neck is Sapelle. The sound is quite delicate and nice despite the fact that the top is braced more or less like a lute, which I see from the photos Ian posted, may be overkill, not that lutes are overbraced by today's standards. Unless other braces fell off, the photos only show two transverse braces on either side of the…
I built a vihuela from Scott Tremblay's GAL plan of an 1816 salon guitar. It has a 60cm string length, the back and sides are EI rosewood, the top is Engleman spruce, the neck is Sapelle. The sound is quite delicate and nice despite the fact that the top is braced more or less like a lute, which I see from the photos Ian posted, may be overkill, not that lutes are overbraced by today's standards. Unless other braces fell off, the photos only show two transverse braces on either side of the soundhole.<br />
Waling, thank you for your blog. You have done a really nice job on the instruments you have built and your documentation of the process is very helpful for the rest of us. For what it's worth, I documented the building of my vihuela here:<br />
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<a href="http://neowalla.webs.com/apps/blog/?page=1" target="_blank">http://neowalla.webs.com/apps/blog/?page=1</a> Me two.
The cite de la musiq…tag:earlyguitar.ning.com,2010-10-02:2111060:Comment:181472010-10-02T10:47:29.147ZJan van Cappellehttp://earlyguitar.ning.com/profile/JanvanCappelle
Me two.<br />
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The cite de la musique has unabeled downloading the photo's of the Chambure Vihuela. :-(<br />
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Lucky enough I've downloaded them earlier
Me two.<br />
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The cite de la musique has unabeled downloading the photo's of the Chambure Vihuela. :-(<br />
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Lucky enough I've downloaded them earlier I am also looking for a good…tag:earlyguitar.ning.com,2010-09-30:2111060:Comment:181362010-09-30T08:37:54.136ZYaron Naor - Ibishttp://earlyguitar.ning.com/profile/YaronNaorIbis
I am also looking for a good Vihuela plan, can any one help?<br />
Thanks,<br />
Yaron.
I am also looking for a good Vihuela plan, can any one help?<br />
Thanks,<br />
Yaron. Petr?
Are you still looking f…tag:earlyguitar.ning.com,2009-09-09:2111060:Comment:127652009-09-09T02:04:15.765ZHarlan Kemphttp://earlyguitar.ning.com/profile/HarlanKemp
Petr?<br />
Are you still looking for plans?<br />
I will be happy to share with you what I find along the way in my research. I am currently researching for an authentic replication build.<br />
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Tim
Petr?<br />
Are you still looking for plans?<br />
I will be happy to share with you what I find along the way in my research. I am currently researching for an authentic replication build.<br />
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Tim Hi Petr,
If I would have the…tag:earlyguitar.ning.com,2009-08-17:2111060:Comment:121092009-08-17T08:58:00.109ZWaling Tiersmahttp://earlyguitar.ning.com/profile/Waling
Hi Petr,<br />
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If I would have the opportunity to start an instrument in Carlos Gonzales's workshop I wouldn't hesitate a second. In case you have not I'share some of my experiences:<br />
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After some discussion with Sebastián Núñez (Luthier in Utrecht/The Netherlands) I decided to make a vihuela in the same way as my 4c guitar. It is carved from one (large, thick...) piece of maple. Because there aren't a lot of surviving instruments nor historical drawings he suggested to me to design my own to my own…
Hi Petr,<br />
<br />
If I would have the opportunity to start an instrument in Carlos Gonzales's workshop I wouldn't hesitate a second. In case you have not I'share some of my experiences:<br />
<br />
After some discussion with Sebastián Núñez (Luthier in Utrecht/The Netherlands) I decided to make a vihuela in the same way as my 4c guitar. It is carved from one (large, thick...) piece of maple. Because there aren't a lot of surviving instruments nor historical drawings he suggested to me to design my own to my own liking.<br />
Obviously you need a lot of wood to construct a vihuela like this but there are advantages: No need for tools and experience for the bending of the sides, much freedom to create the shape of instrument you would like.<br />
The resulting instrument is rather heavy for a vihuela but definitely works as a vihuela.<br />
The vihuela-pieces on 'My Page' are played on this instrument. (by a beginner, mind!)<br />
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When I started on the instrument I alreade had some experience in handling the woodworking tools. During the buildingproces I had some help from a lutier/friend nearby.<br />
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The design of my vihuela is loosely inspired by the drawing on Milan's Il Maestro.<br />
Apart from the bandsaw to saw the basic form from the log of maple and an electric drill to remove as much of the inside as possible I only used tools like planes, knives, chisels, scrapers etc.<br />
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My 'plan' of the instrument was simply a drawing of the contours of the instument with some added details (transverse bars on the top, thicknes of the sides etc.)<br />
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Details of the instrument (and others) can be found at <a href="http://guitarra-renacentista.blogspot.com/""">guitarra-renacentista.blogspot.com</a><br />
I wrote the entries about the vihuela in Dutch. The google translation is poor but might be fun:<br />
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<a href="http://74.125.79.132/translate_c?hl=nl&ie=UTF-8&sl=nl&tl=en&u=http://guitarra-renacentista.blogspot.com/search/label/vihuela%2520de%2520mano&rurl=translate.google.nl&usg=ALkJrhgU4Zo6iGNA8gnbxtpb4aH2m4jqpg">http://74.125.79.132/translate_c?hl=nl&ie=UTF-8&sl=nl&t...</a> Thanks it seems good :)tag:earlyguitar.ning.com,2009-08-07:2111060:Comment:118332009-08-07T13:40:37.833ZPetr Valentahttp://earlyguitar.ning.com/profile/PetrValenta
Thanks it seems good :)
Thanks it seems good :)